The Wick Culture - Celine Fribourg with her book Monsters, with Tony Oursler. Photography by Angélique Stehli The Wick Culture - Celine Fribourg with her book Monsters, with Tony Oursler. Photography by Angélique Stehli
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Interview: Éditions Take5 Founder, Céline Fribourg

Interview
Céline Fribourg
Photography
Angélique Stehli
12 May 2025
Interview
Céline Fribourg
Photography
Angélique Stehli
12 May 2025
Céline Fribourg is the founder of Éditions Take5, a leading publisher of exquisitely crafted and daring interdisciplinary artist books that unite leading talents from the worlds of contemporary art, literature, and design. Take5 books are part of major museum collections worldwide, including the Centre Pompidou, the Reina Sofía Museum, and the Fondation Bodmer, among others, and are regularly exhibited in public institutions. Fribourg also published a book for the MoMA (Library Council) in collaboration with Annette Messager and Jean-Philippe Toussaint. With years of experience under her belt, having worked at Hachette and Gallimard in Paris, Curators International in New York and co-founding publishing house Coromandel Editions with two Parisian associates, Fribourg has changed the way we see and experience books. Here she reveals how books can build bridges between art, literature, and science to foster global reflection on the pressing issues of our time, her own most coveted books, and what she is working on now.

THE WICK:   Talk us through your typical Monday.

Céline Fribourg:   Mondays set the rhythm of the week, yet the art of shaping books and ideas is so deeply woven into daily life that it becomes a continuous immersion in a world of exploration. Éditions Take5 was founded with the ideal of transcending boundaries and fostering dialogue—between the humanities and the sciences, theory and practice, tradition and innovation – through the creation of artist’s books. As a not-for-profit endeavour, it is dedicated to cultivating interdisciplinary and multicultural dialogue among contemporary artists, writers, scientists, and designers. Each book opens a space where diverse voices unfold freely, giving rise to a surprising collective creation.

My role is not operational in the traditional sense; once collaborations are engaged, it is the artists, writers, and scientists who create, each voice weaving into a shared harmony. Through attentive observation – of imagery, language, and materiality – I only accompany these creators, nurturing a process that invites new pathways of thought and expression.

TW:   You are the Founder of Take5 publishing house, which crafts artists’ books that are more like artworks. What inspired you to explore the artists’ book as a medium, and why are artists’ books important?

CF:   As the founder of Éditions Take5, I was drawn to the artist’s book because it inhabits a unique space – between the intimate and the expansive, the tactile and the conceptual. Unlike artworks confined to walls or rooms, an artist’s book is held, turned, and experienced sequentially, creating a profound, personal engagement.

Each project is conceived as a total artwork – intimate universes that foster new ways of thinking and encourage interdisciplinary dialogue between visual art, literature, and science. The collaborative, choral process is essential: it often allows artists to discover new dimensions of their work through the encounter between image, word, and material.

The reader becomes an engaged participant, activating the book through touch, vision, and contemplation. The sculptural presence of each book forms a threshold – inviting imagination and reflection. Through the sensuous interplay of materials, printing techniques, and ideas, each book offers a rare intellectual, affective, and sensorial experience.

TW:   Having brought together artists, writers, designers, and scientists in unique collaborations, what have you learnt about how these different fields can come together creatively and what is the most unique cross cultural collaboration you have created?

CF:   Through bringing together artists, writers, scientists, and designers, I have learned that creativity thrives in the unexpected spaces between disciplines. Powerful ideas are born from the tension, dialogue, and interplay of diverse perspectives – expressions that could not emerge within the boundaries of a single field. Transdisciplinary dialogue is, for me, a commitment to listening, learning, and evolving through encounter.

A vivid example is The Book of Lightness of Forgetting, sparked by Shahzia Sikander’s question: can an image refuse fixity? This led me to engage a dialogue between Shahzia and neuroscientist Scott Small, whose research reframes forgetting not as failure, but as a necessary, even creative function of the brain – an idea that resonates profoundly with Sikander’s practice, which deconstructs and reconfigures cultural memory, iconography, and identity. Their exchange shaped a fan-shaped book of artworks and texts designed for non-linear reading, echoing memory’s associative flow. Studio Guberan created a silicone lattice bookcase evoking neural networks and cradling the book like a cranial shell. Together, they form a meditation on memory, metamorphosis, and the beauty of impermanence.

TW:   If you could walk in someone else’s shoes for the day and master a different skill, who and what would it be and why?

CF:   If I could master a different skill, I would dream of engaging a collaboration between Take5 and a leading tech innovator, to create books that offer cultural, intellectual, and sensorial “remedies for melancholia”. Together we would design tailor-made works for specific emotional or psychological needs – immersive, reflective spaces where art, philosophy and sounds converge.

Blending creativity with technology, each book would become a personalised sanctuary, guiding the reader through a journey of contemplation, learning, healing and renewal. Biometric technologies could measure the emotional resonance of each experience, transforming reading into an intimate, meditative act – where each page becomes not only an encounter with beauty, but a passage into culture, education, and the quiet expansion of the mind and spirit. In a world saturated by digital noise, books could reclaim a sacred role: sanctuaries for reflection, catalysts for inner transformation, and bridges to a deeper, more conscious way of being.

“Powerful ideas are born from the tension, dialogue, and interplay of diverse perspectives—expressions that could not emerge within the boundaries of a single field.”

TW:   Your upcoming book with Shahzia Sikander involves a designer who is collaborating with MIT researchers to invent new printing technologies. How do you see the relationship between technology and art evolving? 

CF:   I see the relationship between technology and art as an ever-evolving conversation that extends, rather than replaces, the gestures of tradition. Éditions Take5’s books are not objects but living organisms – narrative hybrids where ideas, craft, and material invention are inseparably intertwined. Technology is, for me, another material, like paper or ink: a means to deepen expression, never a work in itself. A vivid example is A Walk in the Forest, where a screen is seamlessly embedded into the paper to reveal a poetic video created specifically by Tony Oursler.

TW:   If you could get any artist living or dead to design a book about you, who would it be and why?

CF:   I have little desire to publish a book about myself when the world hums with deeper, older mysteries. If I could slip beyond the boundaries of time, I would for example imagine an artist’s book where Paracelsus, Leonardo da Vinci, and Koo Jeong A convene – a murmured dialogue of alchemy, invention, and the invisible. The pages would unfold like mist: a map of fragments, sketches that shift with the light, words that flicker just beyond reach.

Paracelsus would muse on alchemy and medicine, Leonardo would dream in machines that breathe, and Koo Jeong A would weave invisible constellations across barely-there Skies. Each material would hold a secret – mineral-stained and scented papers, translucent vellum, inks that awaken at a touch. There would be no single path through this book, only a slow navigation through wonder, where imagination becomes the true text, and time itself thins to a glimmering thread.

TW:   The development of your books involves lengthy discussions between your participants. What is the most unexpected or memorable conversation that has stayed with you?

CF:   One of the most memorable conversations that has stayed with me emerged during the creation of Library of Absence, a sculptural book bringing together British artist Conrad Shawcross and former World Chess Champion Vladimir Kramnik. Over the course of a year, I engaged in a dialogue with Kramnik, exploring pattern recognition, deep vision, balance, and the pursuit of surpassing oneself. These exchanges, rooted in friendship and mutual respect, opened a new dimension where cognitive science, intuition, and beauty converge.The resulting book opens with a text by Kramnik, a luminous reflection on the complexity, elegance, and intellectual depth of chess. His writing captures the delicate balance between intuition and logic, revealing the game as a profound space for thought and imagination. Like Shawcross’s intricate constructions, Kramnik’s mastery unveils infinite worlds within finite limits, challenging the reader to reconsider the frontiers of knowledge and human potential.

TW:   Which book do you always pass on to a loved one?

CF:   I love books so deeply that choosing just one to pass on feels almost impossible—there are so many I would want to share with loved ones. But more than any single title, I pass on the values embodied in the books we create at Éditions Take5. For me, each artist’s book is a metaphor for genuine dialogue – between disciplines, cultures, perspectives. To pass on these books is to share an ethic of curiosity, attention, and care. They become an act of resistance, a way of looking that is embodied, deliberate, and deeply human. Sharing a way of engaging with the world – through curiosity, care, and layered dialogue, is the legacy I hope to share. I would hope my loved ones, in turn, are inspired by these works to imagine their own unexpected constellations of artists, writers, scientists, and designers – carrying the conversation forward in new, personal ways.

TW:   What is your favourite Culturally Curious spot in Geneva? And likewise London to spend time in?

CF:   One of my favourite culturally curious spots in Geneva is the Centre d’Art Contemporain, where I serve on the board. Under Andrea Bellini’s direction, it presents cutting-edge exhibitions such as Roberto Cuoghi’s haunting explorations of metamorphosis and identity. Its Biennale de l’Image en Mouvement is also especially remarkable – commissioning groundbreaking new video works. London is such an amazing city that it’s hard to choose – I love visiting the private studios of artists I’ve collaborated with – Idris Khan, Conrad Shawcross, Ron Arad – spaces of ongoing discovery and exchange. I find endless inspiration at John Sandoe Books and enjoy exploring galleries with my friends from Spirit Now club. I particularly cherish Hans Ulrich Obrist’s visionary programming at the Serpentine, where ideas endlessly evolve and expand.

TW:   Who is your ultimate Monday Muse?

CF:   It’s impossible for me to name a single muse. Every day, I feel I could choose a different woman whose life and legacy offer a wellspring of inspiration – women across centuries whose stories remain endlessly rich and resonant. It is a beautiful evolution that their contributions are now gaining the visibility and recognition they deserve. Figures such as Louise de Savoie, whose political acumen was matched by her cultural vision, Hildegard of Bingen, who bridged art, science, and spirituality, Marie Curie, whose life affirms the transformative power of intellect and perseverance, all exemplify a timeless spirit of curiosity and resilience.

Among the living voices who continue to shape my thinking is Siri Hustvedt, with whom I’ve had the privilege to collaborate—her work dissolves boundaries between disciplines with rare brilliance. Each book we create at Éditions Take5 is a tribute to this open, interdisciplinary imagination—a living dialogue across eras and voices that expands what we believe possible.


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